Is the race breaking again in New Hampshire?

There are number of recent polls suggesting that the race may be turning back towards Clinton in New Hampshire. The evidence is consistent and has important implications, particularly for Edwards (whom I support). Let's start by looking at the changes in four recent polls in New Hampshire (I am a strong believer that comparing polls over time from the same pollster is the best way to get a sense of the direction of a race).

Pollster Period compared Clinton Obama Edwards Richardson
American Research Group Dec 12-16 vs Nov 26-29 4 1 -2 -4
Rassmussen Dec 18 vs Dec 11 3 -3 -1 0
UNH (CNN) 12/13-17 vs 12/6-10 7 -4 -21
Fox News 12/11-13 vs 11/27-29 4 2 -2 -6

Here are the averages broken up by what I think are recognizable periods in New Hampshire:
Period Clinton Obama Edwards Richardson Lead
Dec 11 - 18 35.25 25.75 15.5 6.75 9.5
Dec 1 - 11 30.8 27.8 15.3 6.8 3.0
11/27 - 12/1 33.8 25.5 16.8 9.8 8.3
11/1 - 11/27 36.3 22.3 13.5 8.7 14.0
October 41.0 21.8 12.5 6.5 19.2

It is interesting to note that the direction in Iowa is less clear. The ARG poll in Iowa found a 5 point shift to Clinton (from down 2 to up 3) and but is a little suspicious in that it shows Edwards at only 18 (no one has found him that low). In contrast, the Rassmussen poll this morning showed Clinton picking up only a point (from up 3 to up 4). While the averages look better for Clinton, this is in part attributable to the mix of pollsters. A CNN poll shows Clinton up 2 this morning, but has no prior benchmark. However, these polls do refute the idea that Clinton is somehow collapsing in Iowa.

As I have written before about New Hampshire, I am firm believer in the 30-35-40 rule for front runners. A front runner close to 30 is in serious trouble. A front runner at 40 in New Hampshire is a likely winner. With Clinton bouncing from 30 to 35, her numbers look signifcantly better to me. While Clinton's lead is too small to likely survive and Obama win in Iowa, her lead may be big enough to withstand an Edwards win. (though in the end I doubt it)

In any event the numbers show significant volatility - and a race still pretty open.


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Re: Is the race breaking again in New Hampshire? (none / 0)

Good News for Clinton


by American1989 on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 12:43:19 PM EST

Obama's NH paper endorsments (none / 0)

Obama Lands Two NH Paper Endorsements

Portmouth Herald and Valley News

We have been impressed by his campaign's tone of pragmatic hope and partisan reconciliation.

She (Hillary) is an armored warrior in a country weary of partisan and cultural warfare; Obama wears no armor. He seeks reconciliation -- at home and abroad -- and steps forward, ready to speak a language of common understanding.

Hillary attacks on Obama will only help her briefly. People are looking for someone to vote for not against.


by JoeCoaster on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 12:50:01 PM EST

Always look at the internals. (none / 0)

Obama teens and low twenties one all the issues and attributes. Clinton fifties, sixties and low seventies. IA good go any direction but it's not pivotal except in a negative sense for Obama.  


by ottovbvs on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 12:56:34 PM EST

The exception is SC (none / 0)

where I don't see any evidence of momementum for her. This diary was written before the latest SV poll, which showed movememnt to Clinton in Iowa.
by fladem on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 01:00:59 PM EST

Re: Is the race breaking again in New Hampshire? (none / 0)

Shouldn't we at least consider the possibility that the turning point was Billy Shaheen.


by david mizner on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 01:07:42 PM EST

Yes (none / 0)

and that is a great point. The polls showing the biggest change are those just before and just after Shaheen's charge.
by fladem on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 01:12:20 PM EST
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Re: Is the race breaking again in New Hampshire? (none / 0)

Obama's glass jaw was going to be tapped eventually, if not by the press or a Democrat then by the Republicans. If the guy can't take a hit on episodes from his autobiography then you really have to wonder why he is running. Transformational politics and "Americans don't care about that anymore" might work with elites but they don't cut it with voters.

I think his campaign would have been better off lancing these boils early on, and facing some tough press examination. But maybe Obama knows something I don't.


by souvarine on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 01:25:03 PM EST
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If you are into wasting time and sour grapes (none / 0)


by dpANDREWS on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 02:09:45 PM EST
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i think it's obvious that atleast in the (none / 0)

short term what Shaheen did is having it's intended effect. They are not stupid in Clintonland i'll give em that.


Obama! because 51% isn't enough!
by nevadadem on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 01:13:03 PM EST

POLL-arizing (none / 0)

- Outliers.
- Crosstabs.
- Margins of error.

It all equals topic overkill in diaryland.

The bottom %$@#-ing line is that it's too close to call in any early state. No one can claim frontrunner status, so whatever happens happens. Even the exit polls on caucus day can be deceiving.
Yeesh.
by PD1769 on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 02:03:12 PM EST

Re: Is the race breaking again in New Hampshire? (none / 0)

And anyone remember what was going on in New Hampshire between Dec. 11-18???? Why it was the drug use/dealer story pushed hard by Clinton surrogate, and the husband of the ex-gov of NH...shehan.  Dirty politics work --for a while anyway.


by aiko on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 03:42:37 PM EST


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